O Mito do RWD.
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Eliselotus
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falas d carros d estrada ou dos campeonatos?
de estrada, nao ha mt a dizer. o video que esta neste topico da TopGear da uma boa ajuda a perceber a ideia.
de corridas, os RWD sao mais pesados. faz parte dos regulamentos!
e os 4x4 ainda mais pesados sao.
se sao mais pesados, porque motivo sera?
Zur Besonderen Verwendung
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Mas a tua mãe não conhece os filhos das outras mães todas [
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Taveirada
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citação:Originalmente colocada por Wettererkungs dungstaffel
Mas a tua mãe não conhece os filhos das outras mães todas [
Supostamente as revistas para falarem em referencias é pq testam muitos carros... e apesar de todas nao testarem todos os carros testam grande parte... e outra revista outra grande parte e se ambas dizem que o melhor é X, é pq esta afirmação tem algum valor... Podes ir a inglaterra ou aos states que a referencia é a mesma!
Eliselotus
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nao imaginas os truques que as marcas fazem para atingirem o peso minimo. TODAS ELAS usam lastro! por isso a ser inerentemente mais pesado pouco conta pro caso.
Eliselotus
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falando da brecagem dos RWD:
a minha garagem é mesmo mt apertada, tem uma curva de 180º entre muros.
é interessante ver que o unico FWD que faz à primeira é o Lupo.
os BMW E46 e Classe E antigos (ainda c farois quadrados) fazem-no à primeira sem o minimo problema e ainda bem longe dos muros!
outros, tal como o meu, fazem-no à primeira passando perto do muro, mas nada de critico.
é curioso ver que carros com 4x4 ou AWD tb n fazem à primeira! um Vitara faz...bem à rasca, fazendo razantes ao muro
é o unico...
audis é pra esquecer, subarus idem...
isso é devido ao angulo que as rodas podem virar por nao terem os semi-eixos no caminho.
a minha garagem é mesmo mt apertada, tem uma curva de 180º entre muros.
é interessante ver que o unico FWD que faz à primeira é o Lupo.
os BMW E46 e Classe E antigos (ainda c farois quadrados) fazem-no à primeira sem o minimo problema e ainda bem longe dos muros!
outros, tal como o meu, fazem-no à primeira passando perto do muro, mas nada de critico.
é curioso ver que carros com 4x4 ou AWD tb n fazem à primeira! um Vitara faz...bem à rasca, fazendo razantes ao muro
é o unico...audis é pra esquecer, subarus idem...
isso é devido ao angulo que as rodas podem virar por nao terem os semi-eixos no caminho.
- 8 - WMSC 24/03/04
HANDICAP WEIGHT
68. Ballast weight handicaps will be applied and may be amended by the World Motor Sport Council
at any time – including during the Championship – in order to maintain the equality of performance
between the cars:
a) To the drivers finishing in the first three places of each Championship race meeting, according to
the total number of points scored in the two races.
In the case of drivers having scored the same number of points at the end of an Event, the highest
place in the official qualifying session will be used to separate them.
Weight handicaps are imposed according to the following scale:
1st : 30 kg
2nd : 20 kg
3rd : 10 kg
b) To the drivers classified in the first three places of the Championship classification after the
previous race meeting.
In the case of drivers having scored the same number of points in the classification, they will equally
share the total weight of the relevant weight handicaps.
Weight handicaps are imposed according to the following scale:
1st : 30 kg
2nd : 20 kg
3rd : 10 kg
c) Handicap weights a) and b) will be cumulative; at the end of each race meeting, the previous weight
handicaps will be scratched and new ones applied.
However, the maximum handicap weight, when the above two handicaps are applied, shall not exceed
40 kg.
69. In the case of drivers having scored the same number of points at the end of an Event, the
following criterion will be applied to determine their positions for weight handicap purposes:
- Highest placed driver in the official qualifying session.
70. The weight handicap specified will be applied at the following Event. This includes scrutineering,
timed practice, qualifying and the race. Should an Event be cancelled, the weight handicaps foreseen
for that Event will be carried over to the next Event.
71. This weight handicap is applied to the minimum weight of the cars as defined in Article 263-5 of
Appendix J. The ballast must be attached and positioned in accordance with the provisions of that
same Article.
ARTICLE 5 : MINIMUM WEIGHT
The minimum weight of the car, including the driver and his full
equipment, is :
- 1110 kg for a front-wheel drive car the gearbox of which is
original and homologated in Group N,
- 1140 kg for a front-wheel drive car the gearbox of which is
homologated in VK Super 2000,
- 1140 kg for a rear-wheel drive car the gearbox of which is original
and homologated in Group N,
- 1170 kg for a rear-wheel drive car the gearbox of which is
homologated in VK Super 2000.
These minimum weights must be respected at all times during the
event, in particular when the car crosses the finish line.
It is permitted to complete the weight of the car by one or several
units of ballast, provided that they are strong and unitary blocks,
fixed by means of tools with the possibility of affixing seals, and
placed on the floor of the cockpit or the luggage compartment,
visible and sealed by the Scrutineers.
The ballast must be attached to the shell/chassis via 8.8 class
bolts, with a minimum diameter of 8 mm, and counterplates,
according to drawing 253-52.
The minimum area of contact between shell/chassis and
counterplate is 40 cm2 for each fixing point.
E ENTÂO????
HANDICAP WEIGHT
68. Ballast weight handicaps will be applied and may be amended by the World Motor Sport Council
at any time – including during the Championship – in order to maintain the equality of performance
between the cars:
a) To the drivers finishing in the first three places of each Championship race meeting, according to
the total number of points scored in the two races.
In the case of drivers having scored the same number of points at the end of an Event, the highest
place in the official qualifying session will be used to separate them.
Weight handicaps are imposed according to the following scale:
1st : 30 kg
2nd : 20 kg
3rd : 10 kg
b) To the drivers classified in the first three places of the Championship classification after the
previous race meeting.
In the case of drivers having scored the same number of points in the classification, they will equally
share the total weight of the relevant weight handicaps.
Weight handicaps are imposed according to the following scale:
1st : 30 kg
2nd : 20 kg
3rd : 10 kg
c) Handicap weights a) and b) will be cumulative; at the end of each race meeting, the previous weight
handicaps will be scratched and new ones applied.
However, the maximum handicap weight, when the above two handicaps are applied, shall not exceed
40 kg.
69. In the case of drivers having scored the same number of points at the end of an Event, the
following criterion will be applied to determine their positions for weight handicap purposes:
- Highest placed driver in the official qualifying session.
70. The weight handicap specified will be applied at the following Event. This includes scrutineering,
timed practice, qualifying and the race. Should an Event be cancelled, the weight handicaps foreseen
for that Event will be carried over to the next Event.
71. This weight handicap is applied to the minimum weight of the cars as defined in Article 263-5 of
Appendix J. The ballast must be attached and positioned in accordance with the provisions of that
same Article.
ARTICLE 5 : MINIMUM WEIGHT
The minimum weight of the car, including the driver and his full
equipment, is :
- 1110 kg for a front-wheel drive car the gearbox of which is
original and homologated in Group N,
- 1140 kg for a front-wheel drive car the gearbox of which is
homologated in VK Super 2000,
- 1140 kg for a rear-wheel drive car the gearbox of which is original
and homologated in Group N,
- 1170 kg for a rear-wheel drive car the gearbox of which is
homologated in VK Super 2000.
These minimum weights must be respected at all times during the
event, in particular when the car crosses the finish line.
It is permitted to complete the weight of the car by one or several
units of ballast, provided that they are strong and unitary blocks,
fixed by means of tools with the possibility of affixing seals, and
placed on the floor of the cockpit or the luggage compartment,
visible and sealed by the Scrutineers.
The ballast must be attached to the shell/chassis via 8.8 class
bolts, with a minimum diameter of 8 mm, and counterplates,
according to drawing 253-52.
The minimum area of contact between shell/chassis and
counterplate is 40 cm2 for each fixing point.
E ENTÂO????
Lexus melhor q serie 3 em comportamento:
http://turboonline.clix.pt/conteudo_noticia.asp?id=231064
http://www.topgear.com/jsp/individu...esc=Lexus&rDesc=IS 200&roadTestNumber=02.html
Em relação ao Z4 vs S2000: http://www.zeperfs.com/duel.php?IdA=1036&IdB=178
são mt próximos mas o Boxster S acaba definitivamente com o Z4 isso é certo
http://turboonline.clix.pt/conteudo_noticia.asp?id=231064
http://www.topgear.com/jsp/individu...esc=Lexus&rDesc=IS 200&roadTestNumber=02.html
Em relação ao Z4 vs S2000: http://www.zeperfs.com/duel.php?IdA=1036&IdB=178
são mt próximos mas o Boxster S acaba definitivamente com o Z4 isso é certo
Eliselotus
Well-known member
e entao diz-me tu...
Apesar do BMW possuir também tracção traseira a sua postura é bem mais civilizada: o grande equilíbrio estrutural traduzido por uma distribuição do peso igual entre os dois eixos nunca chega a assustar o condutor.
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The 2.0-litre straight six has to be worked quite hard sometimes, but once you've stoked it up it'll carry the speed through the corners without fuss. If you're travelling faster than you thought - which in the IS200 is a real possibility - the great chassis and superb brakes combine to get you out of trouble unless you've been especially daft.
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Well-known member
exacto. eu acho que o melhor RWD é mesmo o Fiat Tipo
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