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Boas pessoal, tenho os dois pneus de trás para trocar e com a chegada do inverno ainda mais conveniente se torna, posto isto queria perguntar que pneus aconselham?
De salientar que não queria gastar um balúrdio em pneus das chamadas marcas premium mas também não vou por pneus dos "chineses", queria ali um meio termo por assim dizer. Os pneus são 205/50 - 17 V e já me deram numa casa de pneu um orçamento de 180€ para colocar pneus bridgestone.
De salientar que não queria gastar um balúrdio em pneus das chamadas marcas premium mas também não vou por pneus dos "chineses", queria ali um meio termo por assim dizer. Os pneus são 205/50 - 17 V e já me deram numa casa de pneu um orçamento de 180€ para colocar pneus bridgestone.
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110 euros
Um luxo de pneu:
http://www.pneucity.com/cgi-bin/rsh...rd&Label=C-A-72-2&details=Ordern&typ=R-252866
Vocsa
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LinoMarques
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Entretanto, fui montar os 2 novos sapatos. Espero que tenha sido uma escolha com nexo...
Se foste para os Nexen Nfera RU1, boa sorte quando chover. Quanto pagaste?
LinoMarques
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Também não dramatizes. Nos vários testes que li, nunca obteve más classificações à chuva. Aliás, isto para mim era ponto de honra. Ficou a 90 €/pneu, tudo incluído. Foram os "SU1" (nem deve haver RU, penso que foi gralha tua [
]).
pedrommfsilva
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Novidades fresquinhas para quem gosta de pneus silenciosos.
A new tyre manufacturing process has enabled Falken Tyre to reduce drive-by noise by up to ten decibels and cabin noise by four decibels.
Quieter tyres that minimise distraction noise and in-cabin drone have been developed by Falken Tyre. While cars are getting quieter, tyres can still generate a notable amount of drive-by noise. Air inside the cavity vibrates and resonates, causing vibrations and therefore sound to be transmitted through the vehicle and into the cabin.
Falken Tyre, together with its parent company Sumitomo Rubber Industries (SRI), has developed a patented solution called Silent Core, which reduces noise thanks to a layer of innovative ether-polyurethane foam material that’s applied to the inside of the tyre carcass. Absorbing sound, the double-humped foam layer can achieve drive-by noise reductions of up to ten decibels compared to standard tyres and can also decrease cabin noise by up to four decibels. Testing to date has shown that tyre performance is not affected and Silent Core lasts for the duration of the tyre’s lifetime.
The production process is now mature enough for series production and the Silent Core product is undergoing a pilot phase with a well-known automotive manufacturer, with other brands also having expressed keen interest.
“Silent Core is a very simple yet extremely effective solution to the reduction of drive-by and cabin noise created by the tyre,” says Andreas Giese, Product Planning Manager at Falken Tyre. “We’ve received a significant amount of interest from automotive
manufacturers about this new technology, which is cheaper and easier to implement than electronic technologies. Initial reports from the pilot test are positive and we’re looking forward to seeing the Silent Core technology progress.”
Ever striving for quieter, more comfortable tyres, tyre manufacturers are looking at increasingly novel ways of achieving sound reduction. Goodyear is one of a number of manufacturers attempting to solve the problem with foam, or as the press release puts it, an "open-cell polyurethane foam element attached to the inner surface of the tyre."
Apparently this is good enough for a 4db noise reduction in the cabin, and is light enough to avoid any impact on fuel consumption. Already being fitted to the new Audi A8, RS6 and RS7, it will be interesting to see if this is the next step in lower label scores and increased driving comfort.
“The secret of success is a coating that is bonded to the inside of the tread area after the actual tire production process. This special layer of foam has a strong damping effect on the sound waves caused by the rolling tire, so that no matter what surface the vehicle is driving on, the noise level reaching the cabin is up to 9 decibels lower – making for a substantial improvement in the quality of the experience for the occupants”, states Continental.
As all of the other tire components and the tread pattern are adopted from standard production tires,there are no differences in terms of performance characteristics such as braking, handling or performance in the wet. And there are no changes in terms of the rims or fitting process compared with standard tires from the same product family.
[h=2]The 9-Decibel Challenge[/h] Up to 9 decibels lowered noise is a lot and it will be very interesting to see if this can actually be achieved out on public roads, and on other tire dimensions than the ones used at the initial roll-out (see details further below).
To understand what 9 decibels mean, bear in mind that a 3-decibel increase corresponds to a doubling of sound intensity. And to the human ear, a 10-decibel increase means a perceived doubling of the audible sound level.
So if the Continental tires would contribute to a 9-decibel decrease of the interior noise, then that would be perceived as the sound level almost cut in half. That would be an amazing feat.
To avoid disappointment, I will remain cautiously optimistic until the ContiSilent technology has been rolled out in the marketplace and further evidence has shown a major noise decrease on various types of surfaces, including the rough roads found in markets like Sweden.
[h=2]The Market Roll-Out[/h] Audi is the first automaker to fit its RS 6 Avant and RS 7 Sportback models with ContiSilent tires from the ContiSportContact 5 P series. The Audi RS 6 Avant will be equipped with size 285/30 ZR 21 tires while the RS 7 Sportback will feature size 275/30 ZR 21. Like all other tires for the Audi RS models, the ContiSilent versions will bear the additional RO1 mark on the sidewall.
The ContiSilent solution will also be offered to other car manufacturers if they are interested.
A new tyre manufacturing process has enabled Falken Tyre to reduce drive-by noise by up to ten decibels and cabin noise by four decibels.
Quieter tyres that minimise distraction noise and in-cabin drone have been developed by Falken Tyre. While cars are getting quieter, tyres can still generate a notable amount of drive-by noise. Air inside the cavity vibrates and resonates, causing vibrations and therefore sound to be transmitted through the vehicle and into the cabin.
Falken Tyre, together with its parent company Sumitomo Rubber Industries (SRI), has developed a patented solution called Silent Core, which reduces noise thanks to a layer of innovative ether-polyurethane foam material that’s applied to the inside of the tyre carcass. Absorbing sound, the double-humped foam layer can achieve drive-by noise reductions of up to ten decibels compared to standard tyres and can also decrease cabin noise by up to four decibels. Testing to date has shown that tyre performance is not affected and Silent Core lasts for the duration of the tyre’s lifetime.
The production process is now mature enough for series production and the Silent Core product is undergoing a pilot phase with a well-known automotive manufacturer, with other brands also having expressed keen interest.
“Silent Core is a very simple yet extremely effective solution to the reduction of drive-by and cabin noise created by the tyre,” says Andreas Giese, Product Planning Manager at Falken Tyre. “We’ve received a significant amount of interest from automotive
manufacturers about this new technology, which is cheaper and easier to implement than electronic technologies. Initial reports from the pilot test are positive and we’re looking forward to seeing the Silent Core technology progress.”
Ever striving for quieter, more comfortable tyres, tyre manufacturers are looking at increasingly novel ways of achieving sound reduction. Goodyear is one of a number of manufacturers attempting to solve the problem with foam, or as the press release puts it, an "open-cell polyurethane foam element attached to the inner surface of the tyre."
Apparently this is good enough for a 4db noise reduction in the cabin, and is light enough to avoid any impact on fuel consumption. Already being fitted to the new Audi A8, RS6 and RS7, it will be interesting to see if this is the next step in lower label scores and increased driving comfort.
“The secret of success is a coating that is bonded to the inside of the tread area after the actual tire production process. This special layer of foam has a strong damping effect on the sound waves caused by the rolling tire, so that no matter what surface the vehicle is driving on, the noise level reaching the cabin is up to 9 decibels lower – making for a substantial improvement in the quality of the experience for the occupants”, states Continental.
As all of the other tire components and the tread pattern are adopted from standard production tires,there are no differences in terms of performance characteristics such as braking, handling or performance in the wet. And there are no changes in terms of the rims or fitting process compared with standard tires from the same product family.
[h=2]The 9-Decibel Challenge[/h] Up to 9 decibels lowered noise is a lot and it will be very interesting to see if this can actually be achieved out on public roads, and on other tire dimensions than the ones used at the initial roll-out (see details further below).
To understand what 9 decibels mean, bear in mind that a 3-decibel increase corresponds to a doubling of sound intensity. And to the human ear, a 10-decibel increase means a perceived doubling of the audible sound level.
So if the Continental tires would contribute to a 9-decibel decrease of the interior noise, then that would be perceived as the sound level almost cut in half. That would be an amazing feat.
To avoid disappointment, I will remain cautiously optimistic until the ContiSilent technology has been rolled out in the marketplace and further evidence has shown a major noise decrease on various types of surfaces, including the rough roads found in markets like Sweden.
[h=2]The Market Roll-Out[/h] Audi is the first automaker to fit its RS 6 Avant and RS 7 Sportback models with ContiSilent tires from the ContiSportContact 5 P series. The Audi RS 6 Avant will be equipped with size 285/30 ZR 21 tires while the RS 7 Sportback will feature size 275/30 ZR 21. Like all other tires for the Audi RS models, the ContiSilent versions will bear the additional RO1 mark on the sidewall.
The ContiSilent solution will also be offered to other car manufacturers if they are interested.
MeninoChines
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Também não dramatizes. Nos vários testes que li, nunca obteve más classificações à chuva. Aliás, isto para mim era ponto de honra. Ficou a 90 €/pneu, tudo incluído. Foram os "SU1" (nem deve haver RU, penso que foi gralha tua [
Existe mesmo RU1 [
]http://www.pneus-outlet.pt/cgi-bin/...te=10&Transport=P&dsco=190&rsmFahrzeugart=ALL
pedrommfsilva
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Site que costumo consultar para ver os modelos e criticas aos mesmos, de cada marca .
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/
E sim, lá estão os RU1
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/
E sim, lá estão os RU1
Reidoasfalto
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Bom dia
Gostaria de saber a vossa opinião.
Actualmente no meu Bravo tenho 4 pneus Hankook V12 94w na medida 205/55/16. Irão fazer a volta de 55-57mil kms. O desgaste foi uniforme por todo, usei pressão de 2.4-2.6bar. E fiz por 2x a rotação dos pneus. Anteriormente o carro tinha montado 4 pneus Continental SC2 91V que foram substituídos por ter as laterais gastas...
A minha duvida/questão, o facto dos Hankook terem o índice 94 influenciou as laterais durarem mais? As laterais ao serem reforçadas, torna o carro mais duro, certo?
Obrigado
Gostaria de saber a vossa opinião.
Actualmente no meu Bravo tenho 4 pneus Hankook V12 94w na medida 205/55/16. Irão fazer a volta de 55-57mil kms. O desgaste foi uniforme por todo, usei pressão de 2.4-2.6bar. E fiz por 2x a rotação dos pneus. Anteriormente o carro tinha montado 4 pneus Continental SC2 91V que foram substituídos por ter as laterais gastas...
A minha duvida/questão, o facto dos Hankook terem o índice 94 influenciou as laterais durarem mais? As laterais ao serem reforçadas, torna o carro mais duro, certo?
Obrigado
CHB
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Sim e não.
O índice de carga certamente torna os pneus mais resistentes mas a diferença entre 91 (615Kg) e 94(670Kg) é irrisória para questões empíricas destas.
O índice de velocidade segue a mesma linha de pensamento.
A verdadeira questão é que, estás a comprar dois pneus diferentes que têm comportamentos diferentes nas várias categorias que são testados
Reidoasfalto
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Boas,
Tenho uma proposta para a seguinte medida 205/50 R17 93W
Yokohama C Drive 2 - 110.95€
Mabor sport Jet 3 - 88€
Qual será a melhor opção?
Tenho uma proposta para a seguinte medida 205/50 R17 93W
Yokohama C Drive 2 - 110.95€
Mabor sport Jet 3 - 88€
Qual será a melhor opção?
Serão assim tão diferentes?1 Pensei que os V12 pertencessem a linhagem desportiva da Hankook... Posso estar enganado... A nível de diferenças na condução, só notei diferenças em piso molhado em curva, em que os Continental eram superiores. De resto, em nada os Hankook ficam atrás dos Continental. E posso dizer que em 17mil kms gastei metade do piso dos Continental SC2 (vinham com meio piso quando comprei a viatura).
cmp6
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Boas,
Quais são esses continental que falas?... E preços
Os Continental que falo são os SportContact5 que estão a 109€ preço final na loja de pneus em Negrais que começa por "X" e termina em "arepa".
Se fores da zona de Lisboa, não acredito que consigas arranjar os Continental mais baratos.
RicardoBC1978
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Boas malta,
O que aconselham para 225/40/R18? Preciso de ter algo durável, minimamente silencioso, que atravesse todas as estações do ano, pois onde moro tanto pode fazer sol como chover desalmadamente em menos de nada. Quero algo para me fazer 50000/60000. Não sou adepto de corridas, velocidades, curvas a "abrir", sou mais soft na condução....
Obrigado
O que aconselham para 225/40/R18? Preciso de ter algo durável, minimamente silencioso, que atravesse todas as estações do ano, pois onde moro tanto pode fazer sol como chover desalmadamente em menos de nada. Quero algo para me fazer 50000/60000. Não sou adepto de corridas, velocidades, curvas a "abrir", sou mais soft na condução....
Obrigado
Boas,
Tenho uma proposta para a seguinte medida 205/50 R17 93W
Yokohama C Drive 2 - 110.95€
Mabor sport Jet 3 - 88€
Qual será a melhor opção?
Yokohama [
]Mas se comprares o Mabor contribuís para a indústria portuguesa [
]