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Mas quem é que falou em "culpa" e ainda por cima da Apple? Seja quem for o causador da vulnerabilidade, o facto é que o SO se torna vulnerável. É disso que estamos aqui a falar - vulnerabilidades de sistemas.

Aliás se tivesses tentado investigar um pouco mais acerca dos argumentos e exemplos que dei tinhas percebido que todas as vulnerabilidades que aqui falei tanto afectam o MacOS, como Windows e algumas até Linux. Tentei ser objectivo e construtivo, se preferem continuar a acreditar que tem um sistema "virtualmente invulnerável", so be it.

Tá bem, mas em casos normais, ninguém vai ter uma máquina virtual a correr ataques ao sistema hospedeiro, e mesmo assim, não consegue arrancar nada, por isso, não compromete a segurança...

Diz mas é, quiseste ir arranjar vulnerabilidades do OS X e não conseguiste...

Se calhar, não procuraste no sítio certo, porque os há....

http://secunia.com/advisories/34424/
 
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Diz mas é, quiseste ir arranjar vulnerabilidades do OS X e não conseguiste...

Se calhar, não procuraste no sítio certo, porque os há....

Mac OS X Multiple Vulnerabilities - Secunia Advisories - Vulnerability Information - Secunia.com

Pensei que tinha sido claro, mas vou ser ainda mais:

Usei aquelas vulnerabilidades para evitar os típicos fanboys que vem logo defender a sua dama com unhas e dentes mesmo quando a dama nem sequer está em apuros...

Obrigado pela fonte. Mas já agora procura nesse teu link por um código de registo na forma CVE-ano-numero_de_registo. Não vi a página mas garanto-te que estará lá. Esse código é atribuído aquando do registo na base de dados cujo link coloquei ai em cima.
 
Msft officially admits w7 design inspired in OSx

When it looked to redesign its dominant operating system after the struggles of Windows Vista, Microsoft reportedly turned to Apple's Mac OS X for the "look and feel" of Windows 7.

Simon Aldous, partner group manager with Microsoft, told PCR that the graphical style of Windows 7 -- which he calls "Vista on steroids" -- was inspired by the look of Apple's Mac OS X. The new Windows operating system launched in October.

"One of the things that people say an awful lot about the Apple Mac is that the OS is fantastic, that it's very graphical and easy to use," Aldous said. "What we’ve tried to do with Windows 7 -- whether it's traditional format or in a touch format -- is create a Mac look and feel in terms of graphics. We've significantly improved the graphical user interface, but it's built on that very stable core Vista technology, which is far more stable than the current Mac platform, for instance."

One of the more obvious similarities between Windows 7 and Mac OS X is the new taskbar. By default, the Windows 7 taskbar acts much like the dock that has been in OS X, combining program applications for both launching and accessing open windows, with only one icon per running application. And like Expose with the OS X dock, Windows 7 allows users to glimpse open windows on the taskbar before selecting them with Aero Peek.

The similarities between Windows 7 and Apple's latest operating system upgrade, Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard, were noted by The Wall Street Journal's Walt Mossberg in his review of the Microsoft software. He said he believes that the Mac OS is still the superior operating system, but only slightly.

Snow Leopard had a head-start on Windows 7, launching in late August to positive reviews that praised the software's performance improvements and bargain $29 price. Consumers also responded positively to Mac OS X 10.6, with initial sales doubling that of its predecessor, Leopard, and coming in four times higher than Tiger.

For more comparing and contrasting Windows 7 with Snow Leopard, read the AppleInsider Windows 7 vs. Mac OS X Snow Leopard series.

AppleInsider | Microsoft official admits Windows 7 design inspired by Mac OS X

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Mossberg: Windows 7 narrows the gap with Apple's Mac OS X

Walt Mossberg of The Wall Street Journal has given Microsoft's Windows 7 a glowing review, noting that Microsoft's latest operating system is still behind Apple's Mac OS X, but not by much.

A known Apple advocate, Mossberg's positive take on Windows 7 is a big change from Windows XP and Vista, both of which the columnist felt were vastly inferior to Mac OS X.

"In recent years, I, like many other reviewers, have argued that Apple’s Mac OS X operating system is much better than Windows," he said. "That’s no longer true. I still give the Mac OS a slight edge because it has a much easier and cheaper upgrade path; more built-in software programs; and far less vulnerability to viruses and other malicious software, which are overwhelmingly built to run on Windows."

He continued: "Now, however, it’s much more of a toss-up between the two rivals. Windows 7 beats the Mac OS in some areas, such as better previews and navigation right from the taskbar, easier organization of open windows on the desktop and touch-screen capabilities. So Apple will have to scramble now that the gift of a flawed Vista has been replaced with a reliable, elegant version of Windows."

Windows 7 is set to debut on Oct. 22. A Home Premium upgrade will cost $120 ($200 standalone); Professional upgrade will cost $200 ($300 standalone); and Windows 7 Ultimate upgrade will run $220 ($320 standalone).

It's launch follows the debut of Apple's latest operating system, which was released at the end of August. Mossberg said both offerings from the rival companies are more evolutionary than revolutionary.

In his August review of Snow Leopard, Apple's latest operating system upgrade, Mossberg said the upgrade is a decent improvement, but not a "must-have upgrade." He said the $29 product is priced accordingly, because Mac OS X 10.6 is not a "typical Apple lust-provoking product."

In the Windows 7 review, Mossberg drew many parallels between Windows 7 and Snow Leopard. He said the new taskbar is similar to the Mac OS X dock, but improves on the concept in some ways -- namely Aero Peek, which he said is "more natural and versatile" than Snow Leopard's Dock Expose. The Aero Peek feature allows users to mouse over an open window in the preview screen, which makes all other windows on the desktop transparent.

He also praised the new OS for being faster than Windows Vista, nagging users for security concerns less than its predecessor, and offering a wide range of software compatibility.

But there are a few key areas where Windows 7 falls behind Snow Leopard, Mossberg said. For one, Microsoft's OS "still isn't quite as natural" as it is on Mac, though it's an improvement from Vista.

And though Windows 7 is faster, his MacBook Pro still started and restarted faster than most of the PCs he tested. "But the speed gap has narrowed considerably," he said.

AppleInsider | Mossberg: Windows 7 narrows the gap with Apple's Mac OS X

Apple's Snow Leopard bests Windows 7 in speed tests
By Sam Oliver
Published: 08:30 AM EST
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When both Mac OS X 10.6 and Windows 7 were tested on a MacBook Pro, Apple's new operating system clearly beat Microsoft in terms of speed, a new test has shown.

Both operating systems were tested on a 2008 MacBook Pro machine by CNet, and each was given its own, separate, clean hard drive. The 64-bit version of each OS was included in the test, which measured a variety of speed and performance related tasks. Snow Leopard was given true, full 64-bit support with most of its native applications taking full advantage of modern processors.

Each OS had the same software installed: iTunes 9, QuickTime, Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare, and Cinebench R10. In the test, Snow Leopard booted and shut down significantly faster than Windows 7.

"In time-based tests, Snow Leopard consistently outdid Windows 7," the study found. "It took only 36.4 seconds to boot up, while Windows took 42.7 seconds. In a shutdown test, Snow Leopard took only 6.6 seconds, while Windows needed twice the amount of time: 12.6 seconds. Both computers, however, took just about 1 second to return from sleeping. For this reason, I didn't actually test the wake-up time as it was too short in both operating systems to produce meaningful numbers or even allow me to measure the difference."

The Mac software also unsurprisingly ran Apple's own native applications more efficiently. Converting a movie from M4 format to iPod in Quicktime X on Snow Leopard took 444.3 seconds, while Windows 7, with QuickTime 7 (the latest version available) took 723 seconds. Similarly, converting 17 songs in iTunes from MP3 to AAC took 149.9 seconds in Snow Leopard, while Windows 7 required 162 seconds.

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The test also found that Mac OS X 10.6 had better battery life on the MacBook Pro than Windows 7. The 2008 model has a removable battery. But author Dong Ngo said he believes Boot Camp drivers were mostly responsible for the Windows 7 battery life, as many PC laptops fared much better than the 77 minutes the Microsoft OS fared.

One area where Windows 7 was able to easily trump Snow Leopard was in graphics performance. The system's 512MB Nvidia GeForce 9600M GT graphics card helped the system score much better in the latest version of Windows, earning a 5,777 3D rendering score in Cinebench R10. Snow Leopard scored 5,437.

In testing Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare, Windows 7 again came out on top, with an average 26.3 frames per second performance, compared to 21.2 frames per second within Snow Leopard.

Ngo's conclusion: Unless you are a gamer, get a Mac.

"If you can get by with just software designed by Apple and if money is not a big issue, you will be happy with a Mac," he said. "Examples of these software choices are iTunes, iLife, QuickTime, Safari, iChat, and so on (and you probably won't need much more than those for daily entertainment and communication needs). Finally, if money is not an issue--and it definitely is for most of us--you should get a Mac anyway. It's the only platform, for now, that can run both Windows and OS X."

http://www.appleinsider.com/article...w_leopard_bests_windows_7_in_speed_tests.html


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Microsoft has issued its response, and it's none too happy, and apparently the Microsoft employee in question was "not involved in any aspect of designing Windows 7." From the official Windows Blog: " I hate to say this about one of our own, but his comments were inaccurate and uninformed."
@ Engadget
Poor Microsoft Partner Group Manager Simon Aldous. His Microsoft bretheren is calling him uninformed and practically disowning him for the quotes he threw out earlier about Windows 7 basing its UI on the Mac OS. A post on the Windows Blog entitled " How we really designed the look and feel of Windows 7" renounces Simon's quotes with a curt, yet harsh line:
I hate to say this about one of our own, but his comments were inaccurate and uninformed.
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Youch. That's gonna be a fun day at work tomorrow for ya, Simon. [Windows Blog]



Microsoft Disowns Manager For Suggesting That A Mac OS Inspired Windows 7 - Windows 7 mac - Gizmodo

E comparar um SO optimizado para um certo tipo de Hardaware, com outro que é instalado em todo o tipo de hardware...
 
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@ Engadget


E comparar um SO optimizado para um certo tipo de Hardaware, com outro que é instalado em todo o tipo de hardware...
Claro e obvio.

A questão é que o cliente quer é performance e aí o MAC ainda está à frente.

Quanto ao desmentido do manager, basicamente é agora a MSFT a fazer damage control...
 


Claro e obvio.

A questão é que o cliente quer é performance e aí o MAC ainda está à frente.


Claro e óbvio?

Não me parece... :sh)

Claramente e obviamente manipulado??? Talvez esteja mais correcto. [:cool:]

Vamos lá ver.... Não falta aí nada?? :confused:


The last time-based test was the multimedia multitasking test, where I measured how long it took QuickTime to convert a movie file from the MP4 format into the iPod format, while having iTunes converting songs in the background. This is sort of an unfair test as I had to use QuickTime 7 for Windows 7 and QuickTime X (which Apple claims to have much improved performance over the previous version) for Snow Leopard. The result: Snow Leopard beat Windows big time, taking just 444.3 seconds to do the job while Windows 7 dragged with 723 seconds. (Sort of Unfair???? :eek:... completamente injusto seria o termo mais correcto...)

So Snow Leopard took the lead in booting up, shutting down, and running Apple's software. It was a different story, however, with other third-party benchmarking software.



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Cinebench R10 showed that Windows 7 was noticeably better than Snow Leopard in 3D image rendering--with a score of 5,777 versus 5,437 for the OS X (higher is better). In gaming, Windows 7 also offered higher frame rates. In our Call of Duty 4 test, Windows 7 scored 26.3 frames per second (fps) while Snow Leopard got only 21.2fps. Joseph tested the game with a few different maps and we picked one that registered the highest scores for both operating systems to report. Consistently, Snow Leopard was always 5fps to 7fps slower than Windows 7.

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Ou seja a única coisa que parece ter ficado demonstrada neste "teste" é que o Windows 7 é consideravelmente mais rápido no que à performance de programas diz respeito . Já a comparação acerca da capacidade de Multitasking (compressão do video MP4, itunes com quicktime) não faz sentido nenhum e nem sequer deveria ter sido referida! . Foi levada a cabo por 2 softwares completamente diferentes, sendo o da versão para MAC de 64bits e bastante mais actualizado e optimizado para MAC do que a versão de 32bits usada (e mal portada) para win7 (de 64 bits)....
 
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Boa noite pessoal,

Estou aqui com um problema, espero que me possam ajudar...

Quando abro uma pen qualquer que tem la dentro ficheiros bloqueados, sejam eles .exe ou não, com o tiger ia às informações do ficheiro e desmarcava a opção bloqueado e assim podia apagar.
Com o Snow Leopard, não me deixa desbloquear os ficheiros.. Alguém sabe como resolver isso?

Obrigado,
Abraço,
Tiago Matias
 
Boa noite pessoal,

Estou aqui com um problema, espero que me possam ajudar...

Quando abro uma pen qualquer que tem la dentro ficheiros bloqueados, sejam eles .exe ou não, com o tiger ia às informações do ficheiro e desmarcava a opção bloqueado e assim podia apagar.
Com o Snow Leopard, não me deixa desbloquear os ficheiros.. Alguém sabe como resolver isso?

Obrigado,
Abraço,
Tiago Matias


Screenshots dava jeito [;)]
 
Sorry... [;)]

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Não consigo fazer "unselect" da caixinha Bloqueado, de modo a conseguir apagar o ficheiro. Diz que as permissões é só LER...

Cump,
TM
 
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Boa noite pessoal,

Estou aqui com um problema, espero que me possam ajudar...

Quando abro uma pen qualquer que tem la dentro ficheiros bloqueados, sejam eles .exe ou não, com o tiger ia às informações do ficheiro e desmarcava a opção bloqueado e assim podia apagar.
Com o Snow Leopard, não me deixa desbloquear os ficheiros.. Alguém sabe como resolver isso?

Obrigado,
Abraço,
Tiago Matias
E mandar para o lixo e depois fazer empty?

Ele pergunta-te se queres mesmo apagar os bloqueados e tá feito.

Se não der, é porque não és o owner do ficheiro, e aí terás que mudar as opções no ficheiro, vais a maçã+I e mudas os direitos para o teu user no ficheiro (Onde diz, read/write etc... no fim da janela de Info)
 
Não deixa enviar para o lixo.. diz que está bloqueado.

Sim, com maça+I, o ficheiro no final diz que só posso ler... e não consigo alterar essa permissão, o que devia deixar fazer...
 
Ah, tá bem... quer dizer, se há uma aplicação mal feita, especialmente uma aplicação que se enterra mesmo ligada á kernel, como o VMWare, e essa aplicação tem bugs, a culpa continua a ser da Apple...

Enfim... se é para ir por aí, então no Windows é que é!

Além disso, o sistema operativo Mac OS X, tem muitas mais coisas que não vêm com o Windows, como Java, PDFs, Mail, Cliente IM, etc...

Por essa teoria, até o Windows95 e 98 eram bons SO[:)][:)]
 
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Por essa teoria, até o Windows95 e 98 eram bons SO[:)][:)]

Pronto fica lá com o teu sistema operativo de segunda categoria, que o MacOS X não foi feito para show off...

Boa noite pessoal,

Estou aqui com um problema, espero que me possam ajudar...

Quando abro uma pen qualquer que tem la dentro ficheiros bloqueados, sejam eles .exe ou não, com o tiger ia às informações do ficheiro e desmarcava a opção bloqueado e assim podia apagar.
Com o Snow Leopard, não me deixa desbloquear os ficheiros.. Alguém sabe como resolver isso?

Obrigado,
Abraço,
Tiago Matias

Verifica se tens permissões totais de leitura/escrita nessa pasta e nessa pen...
 
Vibri, como assim? E se não tiver permissões totais na pen, como fazer para o ter? É que isto acontece-me é nos .exe e ficheiros provenientes do windows, que num windows daria para modificar, mas abro os ficheiros no mac e não me deixa desbloquea-los..
 
Bem.. continuo a não conseguir aceder com permissões totais à pen, de maneira a apagar os ficheiros .exe.. Não sei o que fazer mais :(:(

Já agora, tenho uma Huawei E180, que quando a conecto ao mac, abre-me sempre a maldita da janela de instalação, e já está instalada, não preciso que abra aquilo para nada. Sabem como desconfigurar a abertura daquela "pasta"? Segue o video abaixo para mostrar melhor:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vFuzZKTgF0

Obrigado,

Cumprimentos,
Tiago Matias
 
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