Porque é que nós ganhamos à Holanda
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LuisMiguel
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Ok, já está![8D]
LuisMiguel
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Ainda não??!??
caditonuno
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tá porreiro.
Carlos1979
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Estou a ser loiro...
Holanda é Holland, e Dutch é alemanha.....
Holanda é Holland, e Dutch é alemanha.....
DarthVader1933
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tanto entusiasmo
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jts
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Err... "Dutch" pode referir-se a holandês, mas Holanda não pode ser "Dutchland".citação:Originalmente colocada por Excalibur
Não !
Dutchland = Holanda
Deutschland = Alemanha
Aliás Holanda pode ser :
Dutchland
Netherlands
Holland
É uma história complicada de uma povo/etnia (Dutch) e de uma língua (Dutch) que têm esse nome devido às suas origens germânicas. O seu uso generalizou-se para se referir a tudo que é holandês, por força dessa etnia estar estabelecida sobretudo na Holanda, tornando até o "Dutch" o idioma oficial do país.
No entanto, apenas se conhece o país por Holland (Holanda) e The Netherlands (Países Baixos). Apesar de não ser exactamente a mesma coisa, é uma generalização comum.
Excalibur
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A definição que está na Wikipedia era a que eu conhecia da Geografia.
Se está errada ou não foi a que dei nas aulas e sim vai de encontro ao que dizes, e não não me parece incorrecta.
Fica um excerto
Holland
Holland is commonly used as a synonym for the Netherlands as a whole, while actually it just refers to the central-western part of the country. This part consists of two of the twelve provinces of the country, namely North Holland and South Holland.
Historically Holland was the most powerful district of the Netherlands: the counts of Holland were also counts of Hainaut, Flanders and Zeeland for several periods in the 13th-15th century; during the period of the Dutch Republic the stadholder of the Holland was the most powerful politician in the Netherlands, and he often also was stadholder in other provinces; the cities in Holland were important trading cities, for instance six cities in Holland made up the Dutch East India Company. Still the two provinces, making up Holland, are very strong: they house 37.1 percent of the Dutch population.
The name 'Holland' is used in the Netherlands as well, especially in relation to soccer, where "Holland!" is shouted out loud by Dutch soccer fans. Furthermore do Dutch tour operators and tourist information centres use the term, because the name 'Holland' is better known worldwide.
The name Holland ultimately stems from "holt land" ("wooded land"). A popular, but incorrect, fake etymology holds that it is derived from hol land ("hollow land"), inspired by the low-lying geography of both the region.
The confusion between a part and its whole, called pars pro toto in poetry, often happens in country names, for instance England for the United Kingdom and Russia for the Soviet Union.
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Dutch
Dutch is the term used to describe both the inhabitants of the Netherlands as well as its language.
Dutch is not only spoken in the Netherlands, but also in Flanders, parts of northern France, around Dunkirk, Surinam and the Dutch Antilles.
The English word "Dutch" is a cognate to the Dutch word dietsch (meaning middle Dutch) and the German word Deutsch. All these words have the same etymological origin. Both these terms derive from what in Common West Germanic was known as theodisca, which meant "(language) of the (common) people". During the early Middle Ages, it was the elite that mostly used Latin and the common people used their local languages.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netherlands_(terminology)
As minhas desculpas pelo OT.
Se está errada ou não foi a que dei nas aulas e sim vai de encontro ao que dizes, e não não me parece incorrecta.
Fica um excerto
Holland
Holland is commonly used as a synonym for the Netherlands as a whole, while actually it just refers to the central-western part of the country. This part consists of two of the twelve provinces of the country, namely North Holland and South Holland.
Historically Holland was the most powerful district of the Netherlands: the counts of Holland were also counts of Hainaut, Flanders and Zeeland for several periods in the 13th-15th century; during the period of the Dutch Republic the stadholder of the Holland was the most powerful politician in the Netherlands, and he often also was stadholder in other provinces; the cities in Holland were important trading cities, for instance six cities in Holland made up the Dutch East India Company. Still the two provinces, making up Holland, are very strong: they house 37.1 percent of the Dutch population.
The name 'Holland' is used in the Netherlands as well, especially in relation to soccer, where "Holland!" is shouted out loud by Dutch soccer fans. Furthermore do Dutch tour operators and tourist information centres use the term, because the name 'Holland' is better known worldwide.
The name Holland ultimately stems from "holt land" ("wooded land"). A popular, but incorrect, fake etymology holds that it is derived from hol land ("hollow land"), inspired by the low-lying geography of both the region.
The confusion between a part and its whole, called pars pro toto in poetry, often happens in country names, for instance England for the United Kingdom and Russia for the Soviet Union.
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Dutch
Dutch is the term used to describe both the inhabitants of the Netherlands as well as its language.
Dutch is not only spoken in the Netherlands, but also in Flanders, parts of northern France, around Dunkirk, Surinam and the Dutch Antilles.
The English word "Dutch" is a cognate to the Dutch word dietsch (meaning middle Dutch) and the German word Deutsch. All these words have the same etymological origin. Both these terms derive from what in Common West Germanic was known as theodisca, which meant "(language) of the (common) people". During the early Middle Ages, it was the elite that mostly used Latin and the common people used their local languages.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netherlands_(terminology)
As minhas desculpas pelo OT.
