2009 Honda Insight

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For those that may trust this info in what seems Japanese Mag-X, here are the figures translated into something easy to read:
- Price below 2 million Yen.
- Fuel economy in Japanese cycle : 37 km/L.
- Size: 4400 x 1720 x 1520 mm (as tall as a Fit, but larger and wider).
- Japanese debut: March 2009

For comparison, here is the same Japanese data for the Civic Hybrid.
- Price : 2.3 -> 2.6 Myen.
- Fuel Economy : 26 -> 31 km/L (depending on trim, lowest for 16" luxo-trim, highest for a base trim without side-airbags or curtain-airbags).
- Size : 4540 x 1750 x 1435 mm

All in all, compared then with the middle weight Civic (which is more representative of what's offered in foreign markets), MagX is saying that the new GSHybrid should be:
- 20% cheaper.
- 20-30% more fuel efficient.

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Podiam era fazer um modelo com aspecto mais desportivo e com um funcionamento puramente eléctrico (tipo plug-in) ou misto. Assim a malta só usava gasolina quando fosse pra ir pra fora da cidade.
 
podes deixar um link, para eu obter mais informação.

Isto é apenas un "rendering" e foi a Mag-X que avançou com esta notícia mas tratam-se apenas de suposições. Podes ver na página da Mag-X mas não vai ajudar muito, está em japonês e é necessário autorização. O melhor é mesmo passares no TOV.

Pelo que me é dado a entender, a Honda continuará a utilizar o sistema IMA, provavelmente com mais potência (novos motors do Fit?), se possível (e também desejável) com maior utilização do sistema eléctrico. Se a Honda quer que este carro seja comercializado a um valor acessível certamente que terá que reutilizar o sistema IMA. No entanto, este híbrido não está relacionado com o futuro CR-Z.

Cumps.
 
Mais alguns dados retirados daqui:

http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=759221

O estilo do carro será semelhante ao do FCX Clarity, tal como se pode ver no desenho cima, será um modelo exclusivamente híbrido tal como o Prius, terá aquela imagem de "look at me, I'm saving the planet!".

Mecanicamente será muito semelhante ao Hybrid, mas com a parte eléctrica completamente redesenhada, terá um novo motor e respectiva unidade de gestão, que deverá ser ainda mais compacta e leve que a do actual Hybrid. As baterias usadas continuaram a ser de NiMH o que deverá manter o orçamento do projecto acessível. A Honda rejeitou a utilização das novas baterias de ião de lítio por forma a manter o projecto dentro do orçamento (12.300€ mais barato que o Hybrid) e por motivos de segurança.
 
TORRANCE, Calif., May 20, 2008 - Honda today announced additional details regarding its new small hybrid scheduled for introduction in early 2009, as part of Honda Motor Co., Ltd. CEO Takeo Fukui's mid-year address. An official name and full product details will be announced later this year.

In addition to weight reduction, a significant cost reduction in Integrated Motor Assist (IMA) components will result in the most affordable hybrid vehicle to date. This dedicated hybrid vehicle will be offered as a 5-door hatchback with seating for five passengers and will employ an exterior design concept that evokes the FCX Clarity fuel cell vehicle. Along with the Civic Hybrid, the new vehicle will be produced at an expanded IMA production line at Honda's Suzuka factory in Japan.

The new small gasoline/electric hybrid vehicle will have expected annual global sales of 200,000 units per year - approximately 100,000 of which are bound for the North American market. Following this launch, Honda also plans to introduce another unique small hybrid vehicle based on the CR-Z sports car first shown at the 2007 Tokyo Motor Show as well as a Fit hybrid model. Including the Civic Hybrid, these four hybrid vehicles are expected to reach combined annual global sales of approximately 500,000 units.

"Honda has been at the forefront of hybrid development since it first introduced the American public to hybrid technology with the Insight in 1999," said John Mendel, executive vice president of American Honda. "These new advancements in Honda's technology and production systems will result in cost reductions that will allow us to make hybrid technology available to a whole new generation of buyers."

Featuring seating for five passengers, distinctive styling and high-value amenities, the new hybrid will present an appealing package. Taking advantage of reductions in the size of components, the battery and the internal processing unit will be positioned below the rear cargo area, allowing the hatchback design to provide adequate cargo space to meet the needs of a family. Additionally, various technologies, including a function to assist more fuel efficient driving, are being installed to achieve a further improvement of practical fuel efficiency. With its affordable price, the new hybrid vehicle will represent the best value in its segment.

The new hybrid will be produced at a newly developed second IMA production line at Honda's Suzuka factory, which currently produces the Civic Hybrid. With the second line in operation and improvements in IMA production efficiency, hybrid production capacity at Suzuka will increase from 70,000 vehicles per year to approximately 250,000 units, with future expansion possible if needed.

Honda is committed to offering products with the highest environmental performance produced at factories with reduced environmental footprints. A leader in the development of cleaner, more fuel-efficient mobility products, Honda introduced the first low-emission vehicles; America's first gas/electric hybrid car, the Insight and the world's first EPA-certified hydrogen fuel-cell vehicle, among other environmental achievements. In 2007, Honda was named "greenest automaker" by the Union of Concerned Scientists for the fourth straight time.

-> Novo híbrido será baseado no FCX Clarity, ou seja, será um Hatchback ao contrário do Civic Hybrid.
-> CR-Z chegará a versão de produção, provavelmente será um 2+2.
-> Fit/Jazz híbrido? Acho que são ofertas a mais e carros todos dentro do mesmo tamanho, certamente que será só para o mercado nipónico.
 
. Hybrid strategy to achieve full-scale market penetration
·Reduction of CO2 emissions is a means to protect the environment on a global scale. Recognizing CO2 reduction as one of the most important environmental challenges, Honda became the first automaker to announce global CO2 reduction targets for 2010 for both its products and production activities and is making efforts in various areas.
·There are many ways to reduce CO2. However, Honda believes that, in the product area, the advancement of hybrid technologies is the most practical and effective measure at this time.
·It is important to move hybrid vehicles from the current image-oriented stage to the new stage toward full-scale penetration.
·To accomplish this goal, Honda is making an all-out effort to introduce a new dedicated hybrid vehicle.
·Based on the belief that a hybrid vehicle made by Honda must satisfy and please customers by offering new attractiveness as an automobile, the new dedicated hybrid vehicle largely improved attractiveness as a car in addition to its environmental performance.
·With a convenient and compact 5-door/5-passenger size and an exterior design that employs the concept of the FCX Clarity, this vehicle will achieve unique and highly innovative characteristics as a dedicated hybrid model.
·For its hybrid system, a compact, lightweight, and highly-efficient IMA (Integrated Motor Assist) system was developed with the idea of providing motor assist when it is necessary during startup and acceleration while relying on the engine as the main power source.
·Through a newly developed platform which positions the control unit and battery underneath the cargo space, this new dedicated hybrid vehicle achieves light and comfortable driving. It is nearing final development as a vehicle that creates a new world of driving that is not offered by a conventional gasoline-powered vehicle.
·Various technologies, including a function to assist more fuel efficient driving, are being installed to achieve a further improvement of practical fuel efficiency, so that customers can actually experience the excellent fuel efficiency of this vehicle.
·Moreover, in addition to weight reduction, significant cost reduction was achieved through various measures including making key components of the system such as the control unit and battery more compact, creating a thinner motor, and further advancing the equipment and processes used to produce the motor.
·For example, a new motor production line will be added at Suzuka Factory, and per-hour production capacity of this line will be more than doubled compared to the existing line by increasing the speed of each process and increasing the ratio of automation.
·This new motor production line will become operational at the end of 2008. Total annual production capacity will be expanded to 250,000 units including 70,000 units from the existing line. Further expansion of production capacity is possible to accommodate demand growth in the future.
·Through this comprehensive approach, an even more affordable price will be achieved, so that this hybrid vehicle will be chosen rationally by more customers based on its economic benefit.
·At the same time, this will make it possible to establish a healthy structure for the success of hybrid vehicle business.
·Honda’s new dedicated hybrid vehicle will go on sale in Japan, North America, and Europe in early 2009 with expected annual global sales of 200,000 units.
·Honda will expand hybrid sales in the small class by introducing a new sporty hybrid based on the CR-Z, Civic Hybrid, and the addition of a Fit Hybrid model.
·Combined annual sales of these four hybrid models is expected to reach approximately 500,000 units.

Fonte: Honda

GSH sai para o mercado no início de 2009, sendo assim, estou em crer que será apresentado no salão de Paris em Outubro. Confirma-se também o lançamento do Fit/Jazz Hybrid. A Honda não anuncia nada em relação a tecnologia A-Vtec e HCCI, o que de certa forma é uma desilusão.
 
-> Novo híbrido será baseado no FCX Clarity, ou seja, será um Hatchback ao contrário do Civic Hybrid.
-> CR-Z chegará a versão de produção, provavelmente será um 2+2.
-> Fit/Jazz híbrido? Acho que são ofertas a mais e carros todos dentro do mesmo tamanho, certamente que será só para o mercado nipónico.

O jazz Hybrid já foi descartado pea Honda...
 
Podiam era fazer um modelo com aspecto mais desportivo e com um funcionamento puramente eléctrico (tipo plug-in) ou misto. Assim a malta só usava gasolina quando fosse pra ir pra fora da cidade.
O CR-Z já vem a caminho,nao como "Plug-in" mas já é bom como desportivo-hibrido
 
Lê com atenção o último post. É oficial por parte da Honda, inclusive foi o CEO Fukui-san que anunciou.

Ora ai estão boas noticias, ele esteve previsto, depois mudaram para o CR-Z, arrepiaram caminho com o GSH e finalmente retomaram o bom senso
o Jazz hybrid se mantiver o magic seat vai vender que nem pãesinhos quentes...
 
Ora ai estão boas noticias, ele esteve previsto, depois mudaram para o CR-Z, arrepiaram caminho com o GSH e finalmente retomaram o bom senso
o Jazz hybrid se mantiver o magic seat vai vender que nem pãesinhos quentes...

Mas não será muita oferta uma vez que vão manter o Civic Hybrid? No total são 4 e no Japão/EUA ainda há o FCX.

Vai ser dificil o Jazz manter o "magic seat" por causa das baterias. No entanto, o novo GSH já vem com as baterias debaixo da mala, podem adoptar a mesma solução.
 
Mas não será muita oferta uma vez que vão manter o Civic Hybrid? No total são 4 e no Japão/EUA ainda há o FCX.

Vai ser dificil o Jazz manter o "magic seat" por causa das baterias. No entanto, o novo GSH já vem com as baterias debaixo da mala, podem adoptar a mesma solução.

Não, a Honda em portugal em cada 4 carros vende 1 hibrido , é um feito unico á escala mundial (palavras do administrador da HP na tv)

só não vendem mais porque não há civic 5 portas hybrid, assim temos o jazz que para mim é a R4L do sec. XXI, normal e hybrid que em Portugal deve ficar com um preço fora de série, e com uns consumos de arrasar até o smart CDI, no segmento B, o GSH que fica no segmento C compacto, o HCH que é segmento D de facto, e o CR-Z desportivo para acabar de vez com os preconceitos sobre as capacidades do sistema....
 
Não, a Honda em portugal em cada 4 carros vende 1 hibrido , é um feito unico á escala mundial (palavras do administrador da HP na tv)

só não vendem mais porque não há civic 5 portas hybrid, assim temos o jazz que para mim é a R4L do sec. XXI, normal e hybrid que em Portugal deve ficar com um preço fora de série, e com uns consumos de arrasar até o smart CDI, no segmento B, o GSH que fica no segmento C compacto, o HCH que é segmento D de facto, e o CR-Z desportivo para acabar de vez com os preconceitos sobre as capacidades do sistema....

Bem, estás em forma.
 
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